Sarge, Our 8pm is 1am for Keith. I can remember Seamus trying to hang with us yanks across the pond when you could literally see how exhausted the man was. I had a buddy in NZ who is 18 hrs ahead of me here in Fl. midnight here, Davey G was cooking his dinner, tomorrow. We used to post times when we would be in the Chat Room, eastern, central, mountain, western, etc.